I don’t know anything about the odds and outs or hand vs pot vs implied, let alone blocker cards, variance or reverse polarazation of a bluff, or positional plays, I’m just learning myself.

You can’t judge her behavior in this case based on your personal meeting with her and how she treated you.

You can’t judge her behavior in this case based on whether she’s a good poker player or bad, and whether she’s pretty or ugly.

All the forums seem to be judging her on these issues above when related to this case.

people need to stick to the facts.

It is my opinion that any sane adult who enters into an oral contract worth large amounts of money with no written contract, is nuts. If I entered into a contract worth thousands or millions I would absolutely insist it be in writing and I wouldn’t consider signing it until an attorney that I paid, who is working for me, went over it with a fine tooth comb.

Who in their right mind would enter into such a huge business deal with only an oral agreement?

Next I have to say that if she’s clean in all this, then why is she posting in several forums under various anonymous names, advertising this lawsuit? If you are sincere about the suit with no intent to hurt the poker world in general, and you’re a person with good character, wouldn’t you keep this private?

example this thread on 2+2:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/clonie-suing-full-tilt-344129/

the poster it appears is Clonie and she has 3 different user-names she uses on this site. All 3 poster names come from the same IP, and all 3 seem to defend Clonie in their posts.

If her lawsuit is sincere and she’s a person of integrity, why would she start this thread on that forum and on other forums? She’s intentionally drawing public attention to this lawsuit. Why? You have to ask yourself, why would she do that.

If you research all the details of this lawsuit, it seems that she was given some $$ from FT/Lederer personally and for whatever reason they decided to not have any connection with her any further. because of (we can assume) standard incompetet workmanship within the business, that they didn’t keep organized paper work, decided to let her go, and did not in any formal or informal way let her know about this. At that point after she complained, from what I’ve read, she was offered $$ by Lederer and she turned it down.

here’s the thing, no one can claim she’s on the list of top players anywhere, she knows it, we all know it, so why would she have been offered a contract bigger than all the other players who represent FTP? That makes no sense.

Did FTP handle this from the beginning intelligently and professionally? hell no. They f’d up and for such a huge business they sure has hell don’t know how to run a business smoothly. She apparently was paid $600,000 once as payment- where are the records of this and if there are none, why? all under the table ? what a bad way to run a business and bad for the poker world in general.

But on her side of the issue, she is playing a dangerous game on what she may be bringing down to the poker industry. No one in their right mind would believe she was offered such a huge stake in the company much alone a stake bigger than Chris Ferguson gets, or Jen Harman gets, or the rest get- that’s ridiculous.

I think her case will be thrown out with a small compensation but either way, this endless judging of her case based on her poker skills, her looks, and whether you met her and she was cordial to you, makes all the posters on the topic look just dumb.