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	<title>Comments on: PokerStars Bans SharkScope Use by Players</title>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 21:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone complaining about pokerstars being rigged are just sore loosers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone complaining about pokerstars being rigged are just sore loosers.</p>
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		<title>By: Thebear1022</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thebear1022</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing that any poker site would even entertain allowing these data devices to be used during any poker play. Poker is about using your brain, gathered information while playing at the table. The ability to use your experience and skills Using this data is cheating no matter how you look at it. Look at steriods to baseball or electronic devices inside casino&#039;s, its the same thing you are cheating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing that any poker site would even entertain allowing these data devices to be used during any poker play. Poker is about using your brain, gathered information while playing at the table. The ability to use your experience and skills Using this data is cheating no matter how you look at it. Look at steriods to baseball or electronic devices inside casino&#8217;s, its the same thing you are cheating.</p>
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		<title>By: No More Suckouts!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>No More Suckouts!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 11:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just discovered Sharkscope and the only pro I can see making a profit is Chris &#039;Jesus&#039; Ferguson, one of FullTilt&#039;s founders. He is a true grinder, with a PhD from UCLA in Virtual Network Algorithms. Most of the TV &quot;pros&quot; are losing money by the truckload.

I&#039;ve dropped my buy-ins down to token sums because I&#039;ve realised that you can&#039;t win online. If you play too well you get punished for scaring away the fish. The number of times I&#039;ve been rivered by rubbish is incredible and it goes way beyond the margins of probability.

I recently spoke with a professional hacker who has worked in data security for over ten years. He assures me that the only way to win online is to cheat. There&#039;s a foolproof way of doing it involving global routing but in the spirit of the game I&#039;ll leave it at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just discovered Sharkscope and the only pro I can see making a profit is Chris &#8216;Jesus&#8217; Ferguson, one of FullTilt&#8217;s founders. He is a true grinder, with a PhD from UCLA in Virtual Network Algorithms. Most of the TV &#8220;pros&#8221; are losing money by the truckload.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve dropped my buy-ins down to token sums because I&#8217;ve realised that you can&#8217;t win online. If you play too well you get punished for scaring away the fish. The number of times I&#8217;ve been rivered by rubbish is incredible and it goes way beyond the margins of probability.</p>
<p>I recently spoke with a professional hacker who has worked in data security for over ten years. He assures me that the only way to win online is to cheat. There&#8217;s a foolproof way of doing it involving global routing but in the spirit of the game I&#8217;ll leave it at that.</p>
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		<title>By: rockyscott</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockyscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 18:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with JimmyJ,but I think you can&#039;t use sharkscope is because the pros were being embarassed by how much money they were losing. I would look up the pros and most were losing there rearends online. I believe PS is messed up on their Software, My experience for the past 3 or 4 years is you are a pretty good player you are going to get more bad beats than normal. I have cracked pocket aces all in preflop heads up about 4 or 5 times out of 300-400 times, my pocket aces have been cracked 100-150 times out of 300-400. My heads up all in coin flip hands and I kept stats for years I won 16-17% of the times. Now I have won a liitle money on PS but if I could have won a decent % of the hands of coin flips and hands I dominated people I could have won a good amount of money. Just my opinion and I know other people personally that play also that feel the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with JimmyJ,but I think you can&#8217;t use sharkscope is because the pros were being embarassed by how much money they were losing. I would look up the pros and most were losing there rearends online. I believe PS is messed up on their Software, My experience for the past 3 or 4 years is you are a pretty good player you are going to get more bad beats than normal. I have cracked pocket aces all in preflop heads up about 4 or 5 times out of 300-400 times, my pocket aces have been cracked 100-150 times out of 300-400. My heads up all in coin flip hands and I kept stats for years I won 16-17% of the times. Now I have won a liitle money on PS but if I could have won a decent % of the hands of coin flips and hands I dominated people I could have won a good amount of money. Just my opinion and I know other people personally that play also that feel the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: JimmyJ</title>
		<link>http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/pokerstars-bans-sharkscope-use-by-players-641/comment-page-1/#comment-117207</link>
		<dc:creator>JimmyJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a novice player but I&#039;m new to pokerstars.

While I cannot prove it or back it up with evidence. I have a strong feeling that the games are rigged. If you play for hours on end day after day, I think you can get a &#039;feeling&#039; about the question if you are on the good or bad side of variance. I am winning, and while I do believe it is also because Im better than my opponents, I have a strong feeling that I have been catching way more suckouts than statistics would entitle me too. Miracle suckouts happen, but I seem to get lucky with them way too often (and I play in a way that I dont HAVE to suck out a lot of the time) 

In the biggest game Ive played thus far, I have been all in with K3 suited against AA and I caught a straight. not for a chop, but for the win. and then there are just countless of sets that turned into FH&#039;s against a flush on the turn or river. I caught some bad beats as well, but I really feel like I am getting more than my share. Adams theory/explanation makes a lot of sense, and those are valid points, but I am a player who does not get it in with the worst hand most of the time but I just seem to win them more often than I should. And people usually feel like they are unlucky, but i actually feel like I am lucky, which says something I guess. Just wanted to share that.

As for sharkscope, I think programs like that and pokertracker are lame as fck, but you gotta do what you gotta do to make a living I guess. Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a novice player but I&#8217;m new to pokerstars.</p>
<p>While I cannot prove it or back it up with evidence. I have a strong feeling that the games are rigged. If you play for hours on end day after day, I think you can get a &#8216;feeling&#8217; about the question if you are on the good or bad side of variance. I am winning, and while I do believe it is also because Im better than my opponents, I have a strong feeling that I have been catching way more suckouts than statistics would entitle me too. Miracle suckouts happen, but I seem to get lucky with them way too often (and I play in a way that I dont HAVE to suck out a lot of the time) </p>
<p>In the biggest game Ive played thus far, I have been all in with K3 suited against AA and I caught a straight. not for a chop, but for the win. and then there are just countless of sets that turned into FH&#8217;s against a flush on the turn or river. I caught some bad beats as well, but I really feel like I am getting more than my share. Adams theory/explanation makes a lot of sense, and those are valid points, but I am a player who does not get it in with the worst hand most of the time but I just seem to win them more often than I should. And people usually feel like they are unlucky, but i actually feel like I am lucky, which says something I guess. Just wanted to share that.</p>
<p>As for sharkscope, I think programs like that and pokertracker are lame as fck, but you gotta do what you gotta do to make a living I guess. Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: mojoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>mojoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too question the random cards of poker stars. I have played almost 9,000 SNGs over the years and I cant even count the amount of times i&#039;ve been rivered. i&#039;ve hit numerous sets plus have seen other players do the same on the flop and end up looseing to runners,rather to a 4 flushed board or a straight!! Then the amount of time i&#039;ve seen A/K vs A/weaker kicker and the weaker kicker will hit the board. I realize this happens in poker,but on poker stars,it seams to happen far more than the odds imply. Due to where I live, i&#039;m not able to play alot of live cards but watch it on t.v. when ever possible. I must say that I don&#039;t see any where near the suckouts and bad beats. This is my observation anyway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too question the random cards of poker stars. I have played almost 9,000 SNGs over the years and I cant even count the amount of times i&#8217;ve been rivered. i&#8217;ve hit numerous sets plus have seen other players do the same on the flop and end up looseing to runners,rather to a 4 flushed board or a straight!! Then the amount of time i&#8217;ve seen A/K vs A/weaker kicker and the weaker kicker will hit the board. I realize this happens in poker,but on poker stars,it seams to happen far more than the odds imply. Due to where I live, i&#8217;m not able to play alot of live cards but watch it on t.v. when ever possible. I must say that I don&#8217;t see any where near the suckouts and bad beats. This is my observation anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 06:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a lot to be said for playing good vs. bad play (tilt usually) but I recently lost with pocket A-A 5 times in a row after I&#039;ve gotton the pot heads-up pre-flop; usually opponent has 9-9 or 10-10 and flops a set: this seems more than running bad and can make an individual wonder.

My main thought is; &quot;how is poker programming conducted, is it an art or science, and do all the internet poker sites program the software/cards in the same programming formula.&quot;

With the lack of government standards regulation cheaters and hackers like Russ Hamilton will continue to exist and players will continue to somewhat correctly wonder if poker programming of a site is rigged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a lot to be said for playing good vs. bad play (tilt usually) but I recently lost with pocket A-A 5 times in a row after I&#8217;ve gotton the pot heads-up pre-flop; usually opponent has 9-9 or 10-10 and flops a set: this seems more than running bad and can make an individual wonder.</p>
<p>My main thought is; &#8220;how is poker programming conducted, is it an art or science, and do all the internet poker sites program the software/cards in the same programming formula.&#8221;</p>
<p>With the lack of government standards regulation cheaters and hackers like Russ Hamilton will continue to exist and players will continue to somewhat correctly wonder if poker programming of a site is rigged.</p>
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		<title>By: HarrisonHawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>HarrisonHawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 00:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have tried PokerStars a few times over the years. Each time....after playing 10&#039;s of thousands of hands...I would look at my monitor with my jaw agape as I once again played a hand as a huge favorite &amp; lost.

I played $10 - $20 LHE (full ring game) &amp; $1-$2 NLHE (6-max). Each time I tried it out....there would be the usual roller coaster of winning a bit &amp; losing a bit going on until I got into a big hand for the limit I was playing.

I was crushed in most of the big hands as a small to huge favorite &amp; that was the reason I could never win there....PERIOD!!

I finally gave that site up for many reasons. The #1 reason was playing hands like this: I would have KK &amp; my opponent would have AK....there would be preflop raises....the flop would come K-4-4...my opponent would go all-in &amp; of course I would call &amp; watch the turn &amp; river be running 4&#039;s to make his Ace high the winning hand...it was just unbelievable!!!

Also - I know there are all sorts of 3rd party programs players are using....one&#039;s that are allowed there &amp; one&#039;s that aren&#039;t (PokerStars says they ban certain one&#039;s....but the 3rd party programs say they can&#039;t be detected).

Whatever happened to poker being played....player vs. player? Now it is player vs. another player who is a computer whiz &amp; has all the hands I&#039;ve ever played in his database &amp; use formula&#039;s to put the most significant info right next to my avatar: or bots, shills, proposition players, etc.

What&#039;s Next? Are you going to be sitting at a &quot;live&quot; game &amp; have a player sit down along with an associate who has a laptop computer or some other device to enter all the info they can get on everybody else at the table &amp; every hand that is showed down?

The way I&#039;ve had the most success playing online poker is to avoid the biggest sites like PokerStars &amp; Full Tilt poker. Try out some of the smaller sites until you find one that you like. I believe that in general there are less people at these type of sites that have databases that include you in them.

I am still ahead playing online poker over all....but not near as much as I would have been if I would have avoided PokerStars like the plague.
 
One thing I found out regarding PokerStars speaks volumes about how they operate. The FINAL TIME I tried that site out....I E-mailed them &amp; asked if I could change my screen name there because I didn&#039;t want any of my opponents have having a lot of info about me that they gleaned by 3rd party software programs.

LOL - they E-mailed me back &amp; told me that I couldn&#039;t &amp; it was for my own good because of security issues.

And to all the folks who say that all these sites are fair &amp; nobody ever gets cheated. Obvioulsy we all know about &quot;Ultimate Bet&quot; &amp; &quot;Absolute Poker&quot;...so it can &amp; did happen...&amp; when caught...both sites stonewalled until &quot;Players&quot; came up with incontrovertible evidence.

Remember these two adages: &quot;Doing the same thing over &amp; over again &amp; expecting different results is one definition of insanity&quot; and &quot;CAVEAT EMPTOR&quot;!!

Of Course - this is just IMHO &amp; I know there are players on both sides of this argument &amp; there probably always will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have tried PokerStars a few times over the years. Each time&#8230;.after playing 10&#8242;s of thousands of hands&#8230;I would look at my monitor with my jaw agape as I once again played a hand as a huge favorite &amp; lost.</p>
<p>I played $10 &#8211; $20 LHE (full ring game) &amp; $1-$2 NLHE (6-max). Each time I tried it out&#8230;.there would be the usual roller coaster of winning a bit &amp; losing a bit going on until I got into a big hand for the limit I was playing.</p>
<p>I was crushed in most of the big hands as a small to huge favorite &amp; that was the reason I could never win there&#8230;.PERIOD!!</p>
<p>I finally gave that site up for many reasons. The #1 reason was playing hands like this: I would have KK &amp; my opponent would have AK&#8230;.there would be preflop raises&#8230;.the flop would come K-4-4&#8230;my opponent would go all-in &amp; of course I would call &amp; watch the turn &amp; river be running 4&#8242;s to make his Ace high the winning hand&#8230;it was just unbelievable!!!</p>
<p>Also &#8211; I know there are all sorts of 3rd party programs players are using&#8230;.one&#8217;s that are allowed there &amp; one&#8217;s that aren&#8217;t (PokerStars says they ban certain one&#8217;s&#8230;.but the 3rd party programs say they can&#8217;t be detected).</p>
<p>Whatever happened to poker being played&#8230;.player vs. player? Now it is player vs. another player who is a computer whiz &amp; has all the hands I&#8217;ve ever played in his database &amp; use formula&#8217;s to put the most significant info right next to my avatar: or bots, shills, proposition players, etc.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s Next? Are you going to be sitting at a &#8220;live&#8221; game &amp; have a player sit down along with an associate who has a laptop computer or some other device to enter all the info they can get on everybody else at the table &amp; every hand that is showed down?</p>
<p>The way I&#8217;ve had the most success playing online poker is to avoid the biggest sites like PokerStars &amp; Full Tilt poker. Try out some of the smaller sites until you find one that you like. I believe that in general there are less people at these type of sites that have databases that include you in them.</p>
<p>I am still ahead playing online poker over all&#8230;.but not near as much as I would have been if I would have avoided PokerStars like the plague.</p>
<p>One thing I found out regarding PokerStars speaks volumes about how they operate. The FINAL TIME I tried that site out&#8230;.I E-mailed them &amp; asked if I could change my screen name there because I didn&#8217;t want any of my opponents have having a lot of info about me that they gleaned by 3rd party software programs.</p>
<p>LOL &#8211; they E-mailed me back &amp; told me that I couldn&#8217;t &amp; it was for my own good because of security issues.</p>
<p>And to all the folks who say that all these sites are fair &amp; nobody ever gets cheated. Obvioulsy we all know about &#8220;Ultimate Bet&#8221; &amp; &#8220;Absolute Poker&#8221;&#8230;so it can &amp; did happen&#8230;&amp; when caught&#8230;both sites stonewalled until &#8220;Players&#8221; came up with incontrovertible evidence.</p>
<p>Remember these two adages: &#8220;Doing the same thing over &amp; over again &amp; expecting different results is one definition of insanity&#8221; and &#8220;CAVEAT EMPTOR&#8221;!!</p>
<p>Of Course &#8211; this is just IMHO &amp; I know there are players on both sides of this argument &amp; there probably always will be.</p>
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		<title>By: uranus2457</title>
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		<dc:creator>uranus2457</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 10:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look all you players out there,Poker Stars is not fixed,rigged or anything else.
The Poker Stars site does more than any other site out there,they are a truly fantastic site who care about their members,and i know this first hand.
Poker Is a hard game and reqires lots of work to improve,most pros will be down on money for short term only to win in the long run.
I am not going to let people say these things,as its just not fair.
So if you don,t like Poker Stars GET LOST,as your insulting the site and workforce and the pro,s and the members that think Poker Stars is excellent.
I had my head in a cloud recently,and said some silly things,to be honest i was a prat,and have to live with my stupid remarks,but Poker Stars being very good,they understand the frustrations of Poker.
My advice enjoy the game,try to improve,or join a training site while you play.Look at the factors your never to far ahead in a hand,so if your beat,then your playing right and you will win in end.
Basically cut the crap,saying the site is rigged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look all you players out there,Poker Stars is not fixed,rigged or anything else.<br />
The Poker Stars site does more than any other site out there,they are a truly fantastic site who care about their members,and i know this first hand.<br />
Poker Is a hard game and reqires lots of work to improve,most pros will be down on money for short term only to win in the long run.<br />
I am not going to let people say these things,as its just not fair.<br />
So if you don,t like Poker Stars GET LOST,as your insulting the site and workforce and the pro,s and the members that think Poker Stars is excellent.<br />
I had my head in a cloud recently,and said some silly things,to be honest i was a prat,and have to live with my stupid remarks,but Poker Stars being very good,they understand the frustrations of Poker.<br />
My advice enjoy the game,try to improve,or join a training site while you play.Look at the factors your never to far ahead in a hand,so if your beat,then your playing right and you will win in end.<br />
Basically cut the crap,saying the site is rigged.</p>
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		<title>By: brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Ann Roberts   February 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm 

congratulations PokerStars on banning sharkscope; although I have had my account blocked on sharkscope it caused me a lot of problems while playing money sit and go tourneys because opponents would check stats and report to the table which I thought to be very unfair. Again, thanks for this action and I remain a dedicated poker player only on pokerstars because it’s the only PERFECT site for real money or even play money play! Thanks


Pokerstars blows. The only thing good about it is the graphics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Ann Roberts   February 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm </p>
<p>congratulations PokerStars on banning sharkscope; although I have had my account blocked on sharkscope it caused me a lot of problems while playing money sit and go tourneys because opponents would check stats and report to the table which I thought to be very unfair. Again, thanks for this action and I remain a dedicated poker player only on pokerstars because it’s the only PERFECT site for real money or even play money play! Thanks</p>
<p>Pokerstars blows. The only thing good about it is the graphics.</p>
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